Comments on: Democracy’s Flaw http://blog.riseofreason.com/democracys-flaw/192/ The freedom to reason. The reason for freedom. Fri, 30 Dec 2011 12:24:10 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.1 hourly 1 By: charleydan http://blog.riseofreason.com/democracys-flaw/192/comment-page-1/#comment-811 charleydan Sun, 11 Jan 2009 12:00:49 +0000 http://blog.riseofreason.com/?p=192#comment-811 Why taxation? or reason Why not taxation? Equality? There was a survey done in 2000-05 of 128 countries. All were also marked on how free a Nation they were. They found that five quintiles or levels of earnings in all nations closely related percentage wise. That is there were groups broken at 6-11-15-21-47 percent is standard in all societies. So weather one lived in a socialism or free country it did not make all participants on the same level economically. What they did find is that the freer the country the higher the earnings for all class of people. This country is not even near a democracy of mob rule. Congress refers to it when trying to convince the majority they matter. In reality, congress rules, granted by the courts in early 1900's saying their laws go back farther then the constitution and the constitution is irrelevant in these matters. We lean closer to Facism then mob rule of democracy. Either way same result, taxation is collected at gun point or stolen by creation of money. Why taxation? or reason Why not taxation? Equality?
There was a survey done in 2000-05 of 128 countries. All were also marked on how free a Nation they were. They found that five quintiles or levels of earnings in all nations closely related percentage wise. That is there were groups broken at 6-11-15-21-47 percent is standard in all societies. So weather one lived in a socialism or free country it did not make all participants on the same level economically.

What they did find is that the freer the country the higher the earnings for all class of people.

This country is not even near a democracy of mob rule. Congress refers to it when trying to convince the majority they matter.

In reality, congress rules, granted by the courts in early 1900’s saying their laws go back farther then the constitution and the constitution is irrelevant in these matters.

We lean closer to Facism then mob rule of democracy. Either way same result, taxation is collected at gun point or stolen by creation of money.

]]> By: jamief http://blog.riseofreason.com/democracys-flaw/192/comment-page-1/#comment-49 jamief Mon, 10 Nov 2008 06:06:01 +0000 http://blog.riseofreason.com/?p=192#comment-49 Here is that quote we were discussing (by C.S. Lewis of all people). I think it applies: "Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end for they do so with the approval of their own conscience". Here is that quote we were discussing (by C.S. Lewis of all people). I think it applies:

“Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron’s cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end for they do so with the approval of their own conscience”.

]]> By: Donald http://blog.riseofreason.com/democracys-flaw/192/comment-page-1/#comment-46 Donald Sun, 09 Nov 2008 07:30:12 +0000 http://blog.riseofreason.com/?p=192#comment-46 The idea that somehow a progressive tax system is fair is an absolute sham. I really love Huckabee's Fair Tax plan; the plan that gets rid of income taxes and the IRS entirely and just imposes something like a 18-23% sales tax on everything. Opponents of it call it regressive but they clearly don't understand a base deduction that everyone is allowed each year. And also, how is it regressive? The rich tend to buy more and will thus pay more? Boggles my mind. Maybe it will also force Americans to actually save some money. Don't get me wrong, consumption is great for the economy and America's greatest strength is it's consumer strength, but I think we've all seen the problems of a negative savings rate for year after year... it simply isn't sustainable. The idea that somehow a progressive tax system is fair is an absolute sham. I really love Huckabee’s Fair Tax plan; the plan that gets rid of income taxes and the IRS entirely and just imposes something like a 18-23% sales tax on everything. Opponents of it call it regressive but they clearly don’t understand a base deduction that everyone is allowed each year. And also, how is it regressive? The rich tend to buy more and will thus pay more? Boggles my mind. Maybe it will also force Americans to actually save some money. Don’t get me wrong, consumption is great for the economy and America’s greatest strength is it’s consumer strength, but I think we’ve all seen the problems of a negative savings rate for year after year… it simply isn’t sustainable.

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